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PostPosted: 09 Aug 2011 09:18 
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London burns for the third day, the police have apparently lost control (if they ever had it), one wonders why the army hasn't been called out.
Perhaps there is an ethical dilemma, maybe it's OK under British law to use soldiers in one part of Britain but not in another?


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 Post subject: Re: London burns
PostPosted: 11 Aug 2011 11:50 
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Another day gone bye and now there are three dead.

The police have been authorized to use rubber bullets which are not just pellets of rubber as some might think but
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Here's a quote that I found on Debate and Relate.

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The rubber riot control bullet is part of a long line of development of non-lethal riot control cartridges that dates back to the use of short sections of broom handle fired at rioters in Singapore in the 1880s.[1] The Hong Kong police developed wooden baton rounds but they were liable to splinter and cause wounds. British developed rubber rounds—the "Round, Anti-Riot, 1.5in Baton"—to replace the wooden rounds, where they were widely used in Northern Ireland.[8][9] A low power propelling charge gave them a muzzle velocity of about 60 m/s (200 ft/s) and maximum range of about 100 m (110 yd). The intended use is to fire at the ground so that the round bounces up and hits the target on the legs causing pain but not injury.[10] In Northern Ireland over 35 years (1970–2005) approximately 125,000 baton rounds were fired—an average of ten per day—causing 17 deaths.[11] The baton round was made available to British police forces outside Northern Ireland from 2001
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1.5 inch diametre and 4.5 inches long.


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 Post subject: Re: London burns
PostPosted: 26 Aug 2011 13:52 
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Well, the riots have been over for some time.

Pity that no one noticed.


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 Post subject: Re: London burns
PostPosted: 26 Aug 2011 14:18 
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I noticed but would have been afraid to take part in any discussion at the time as I was rather disgusted with the way some tried to play the various angles of 'It's the blacks fault', "It's the muslims fault", "It's the fault of the poor" "It's the youth of today" etc.

I was amused at the way the rhetoric died a sudden death when it was revealed some were white and upper class.

It seemed like a mob mentality out of control looking to being one of the crowd with no thought of consequences or even knowing why. Just as all riots are and probably always have been.

The killings should be treated as any other murder, same with the theft (looting) vandalism etc.

Should they have bought in hoses? Probably as they could lower the pressure a bit so people weren't seriously hurt. Nothing like being cold and wet to send people home early :D
Should they have bought in the Army? As long as they weren't armed and told not to bludgeon people.
Should the parents have realised where their children were? Definitely. Possibly why some turned them in as they discovered there was no way to stop them going out. For some parents turning their kids in was revenge for disobedience.

Just like everything we do sometimes, spur of the moment with no real reason.


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