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 Post subject: Re: Ethics poll: church employee religion
PostPosted: 02 Sep 2011 01:19 
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In my view if the school only wants to hire Catholic teachers and only teach Catholic children then they should not be eligible for any State Revenue. And that goes for any other religion too.
If they want to be a really private school then don't ask for any public money.

It's important to remember the Catholic Church built the first and best schools and hospitals in this country, and that they're still going strong through popular demand. This came about because people with a common belief system and commitment to improving their community worked together. People with a random hotch potch of half baked ideas, as are likely to be found in your average government school can achieve very little.
As someone commented when well known atheist writer Philip Adams got carted off to St Vinnies during a medical emergency. "Why didn't he go to the atheist hospital? Oh that's right there isn't one"
I support the same principal for Jewish and Muslim schools, they should also have the right to choose teachers based on their religion. I would much prefer to send my child to one of their schools in preference to a godless school, where there is no common morality, kids tell the teachers to f--- off, and promiscuity is OK, in fact anything is OK.
Forcing democracy upon religious institutions means there can be no religious freedom, in fact democracy is a tyranny in the hands of the myopic.


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 Post subject: Re: Ethics poll: church employee religion
PostPosted: 02 Sep 2011 18:23 
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. . . .In my view if the school only wants to hire Catholic teachers and only teach Catholic children then they should not be eligible for any State Revenue. And that goes for any other religion too.
If they want to be a really private school then don't ask for any public money.

Then rest eazy because Catholic schools in Australia do not hire only Roman Catholic teachers but to my personal knowledge have also hired Anglicans, they do however require that teachers have Christian ethics which do not conflict with Catholicism.
Children of any religion are taught in Catholic schools in Australia.


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 Post subject: Re: Ethics poll: church employee religion
PostPosted: 05 Sep 2011 17:15 
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Christine O wrote:
MyView wrote:
In my view if the school only wants to hire Catholic teachers and only teach Catholic children then they should not be eligible for any State Revenue. And that goes for any other religion too.
If they want to be a really private school then don't ask for any public money.

It's important to remember the Catholic Church built the first and best schools and hospitals in this country, and that they're still going strong through popular demand. This came about because people with a common belief system and commitment to improving their community worked together. People with a random hotch potch of half baked ideas, as are likely to be found in your average government school can achieve very little.
As someone commented when well known atheist writer Philip Adams got carted off to St Vinnies during a medical emergency. "Why didn't he go to the atheist hospital? Oh that's right there isn't one"
I support the same principal for Jewish and Muslim schools, they should also have the right to choose teachers based on their religion. I would much prefer to send my child to one of their schools in preference to a godless school, where there is no common morality, kids tell the teachers to f--- off, and promiscuity is OK, in fact anything is OK.
Forcing democracy upon religious institutions means there can be no religious freedom, in fact democracy is a tyranny in the hands of the myopic.


:shock:

Not necessarily so. In fact many of the supposed godless people live by a set of principles, ethics even.


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 Post subject: Re: Ethics poll: church employee religion
PostPosted: 06 Sep 2011 00:20 
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I agree there are many godless people who live by high principals, and live far more moral lives than many Christians do too. There's also plenty with no morals at all. My point was, that a bunch of people with shared values and beliefs can achieve their aims easily. A bunch of people whose values and beliefs may be diometrically opposed to each other cannot, and then it's likely they'll have an outcome which reflects the groups' lowest common donominator.


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 Post subject: Re: Ethics poll: church employee religion
PostPosted: 13 Dec 2012 22:45 
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While I believe that first preference should be given to those of the particular religion it should not be exclusively so. Most applications for religious organisations of my own or other religions get around this by asking how would you demonstrate your adherence to the ethos of XYZ[religion], this is something that is in my opinion acceptable, while not discriminating against an atheist or someone of another faith but calls them to respect that it is a faith based environment which deserves respect.


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