Watch Philip Wollen's passionate introduction to the St James Ethics centre Intelligence Squared debate about meat eating. He is a powerful advocate for vegetarianism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQCe4qEexjc

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion. I personally think the harm caused by the starving of the millions of domestic cattle, swine, sheep and poultry to be the bigger sin. If they have no market value as food, then it would be highly unethical to divert food from the human market just to keep them alive until they died of old age.

If someone chooses to be a vegetarian, good for them.

I'm a member of that other PETA. People Eating Tasty Animals.

I'm currently on a course of Iron injections for Anemia.

Cause? The medico told me I'm not eating enough red meat.

And so I told him that if he would just be so kind as to subsidise my butcher's costs - then I'd eat red meat every day.

He immediately began to talk about the weather...

There are lots of reasons why you might be having trouble absorbing iron, absence of vitamin c might be one. Green veggie, cereals, legumes and tofu contain iron and just think about actual cost of the meat when all the subsidies run out. Feel good that you are not supporting the exploitation of animals too

Hello india. Only your third post. Don't stop now. This board desperately needs active members. Don't be discouraged by the paranoid 'control-freak' personalities here who unethically refuse to let you post freely and without let or hindrance.

Thank you for your brief analysis of my condition.

I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, india - but vegetarianism is a cult.

It's an idiosyncratic affectation that has absolutely nothing to do with preserving ones health or encouraging good eating practices.

In fact - (and I don't mean to be rude here) - but vegetarianism is a symptom of unresolved neurotic anxiety.

My specialised teeth tell me what sort of foods I should be eating in order to receive a healthy diet... and I don't want to alarm you or cause you any panic - but I've got a beautiful set of ivories for biting, ripping, cutting and chewing.... meat.

In recent years, the vegetarian diet has increased in popularity. And while many people are vegetarian for cultural, religious or ecological reasons, more and more people are converting to vegetarianism for health benefits. The vegetarian food-style has been called "a healthier way to eat" for many reasons.
Vegetarian diets have been credited with decreasing the incidence or severity of heart disease, hypertension, diverticular disease, cancer of the breast, colon, prostate and lung, and osteoporosis and gallstones.

"Life is to be Lived" ~ as they say.

The vast majority choose to live life as something to celebrate for all its diverse pleasures of the mind, body, and soul.

If you're in a competition to live a little longer than your neighbour's threescore-and-ten, and one of your strategies is to deny yourself the many and varied pleasures of meat and fish dishes - then I can only feel sorry for you.

Way too precious, and ultimately self-defeating in terms of life experience.

Chicken; roast beef; lamb; pork; fish; bacon; salamis; sausages; hamburgers; roast duck; etc.

But hey! You'll live a few more years than the meat eaters! Whoopie-doo! (Slow handclap from the dudes in their graves who spent a life-time enjoying the unique pleasures of consuming deliciously prepared meats and fishes).

At the very core of vegetarianism is a disturbed psychology that is filled with neurotic anxieties resting beneath pretensions of superiority and even moral righteousness.

In a word: Get a Life, you people!

It is a vow of celebacy and I would be glad if people stop hurting each other just like a vegetarian opposes to hurt animals just to feed himself.

Laying off the meat is a vow of celibacy ~ I love it!

One of the ironies is that the world's population of cattle and sheep is as big as they are only because of the carnivores amongst us.

It's the meat-eaters who are the reason for 99% of the cattle and sheep being alive today. Pigs and chickens too.

It's not the meat-eaters who are culling the herds - but the vegetarians.

When you swore a vow of celibacy, Salinda ~ you condemned several cows, pigs, chickens, sheep, and lamb not to be brought into existence during the course of your life-time.

Your celibacy registers with your local butcher who then orders less meat from the abattoirs ~ who in turn order less live-stock from the farmers.

I haven't fully formulated a broadly-considered opinion on this issue, (ie it's not the same as buying a car where you can just add up the pros and cons due to a failure to respect humanity as its own end) ...

... but the utilitarian side of me thinks that given there is no global shortage of children, and a global excess of orphans, IVF should be banned in initial favour of adoption - and probably banned altogether, since a smaller population would be of greater general utility to the constituents.

Being a vegetarian is really a righteous thing to do but I really love drumsticks but I will go with the saying "Life is to be Lived"
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What's missing here is an evolution perspective: Natures mistakes are dead. Perhaps the most evolutionary detail found in nature is the creatures dentition. Three known dentition strategies exist, so the creatures can ultimately procreate, to continue the lineage. Herbivores, carnivores, & omnivores, nature did not error when humans were given canine & incisor teeth. Canine & incisor teeth are well designed, in humans, for dealing with flesh. So the question to vegetarians is why do you have canine & incisor teeth? Today the quantity of meat, we consume, is not in proportion to the design of our dental strategy.

Take Care
Rico